Full of Win
Apr 25, 09:02 AM
Once again you are proving that you know nothing about production issues.
Guilty as charged, which I indicated by adding 'supposed' to the post you quoted. This is not for lack of research, but rather due to the lack of forthcomingness from Apple. Most companies would have stated what the issue was, the corrective steps being taken to address it, and an apology for the massive (10 months out of an avg 12 month product life:eek:) delay. Apple ? Nothing, nada, zip, zilch....and that was one of the many disgraces I alluded to originally. Making a promice, not delivering on it for 10 months, and not being open as to the reason(s) why = DISGRACEFUL and DISGUSTING
There is a big difference between making a few samples to show and circulate and real en masse production.
There are also issues with white products that only show up after a certain amount of time.
White tends to have aluminum oxide pigments and in many cases light inhibitors. Depending on the material used there may have been a delayed photo mechanical reaction.
That especially, when several layers of white are used.
But I am only guessing, the real issues are only know to Apple.
Apple is a preeemint designer of consumer electronics in the World, in fact based on market cap, they are the second most valuable company in the United States. They are not some bush league designers, that much is certain. Apple had 6 months to find this issue, SIX MONTHS - plenty of time I think to do pre-produciotn runs and to identify the issue. The white iPhone 4 should never had graced Steve Jobs Keynote unless that were sure they could deliver it in a TIMELY manner. The fact that is did is another disgrace of the White iPhone 4.
You also know absolutely NOTHING about the real issues other than what people speculated.
Yes, I know nothing about the delay....due to the disgraceful actions of Apple and their total lack of openness. Again, I said "supposed" in the post you quoted to indicate I was not certain of the issue. I've added the definition for your edification, as you seem to not know the meaning of the word.
Supposed: (verb) assume that something is the case on the basis of evidence or probability but without proof or certain knowledge
For Apple to recognize it and NOT ship it, just because they showed it proves what a good company they are.
Whatever time it then took to fix it is unimportant.
So being 10 months late on a product, whose historic refresh cycle is ~12 months, is "unimportant". I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think a delay that encompasses 80%+ of the historic product cycle is kind of important. To say otherwise speaks volumes.
Oh, and try telling the people who waited 10 months to get one or who got a black one but really wanted a white one how "unimportant" this issue is. I'm sure your comment will fall on deaf ears.
Guilty as charged, which I indicated by adding 'supposed' to the post you quoted. This is not for lack of research, but rather due to the lack of forthcomingness from Apple. Most companies would have stated what the issue was, the corrective steps being taken to address it, and an apology for the massive (10 months out of an avg 12 month product life:eek:) delay. Apple ? Nothing, nada, zip, zilch....and that was one of the many disgraces I alluded to originally. Making a promice, not delivering on it for 10 months, and not being open as to the reason(s) why = DISGRACEFUL and DISGUSTING
There is a big difference between making a few samples to show and circulate and real en masse production.
There are also issues with white products that only show up after a certain amount of time.
White tends to have aluminum oxide pigments and in many cases light inhibitors. Depending on the material used there may have been a delayed photo mechanical reaction.
That especially, when several layers of white are used.
But I am only guessing, the real issues are only know to Apple.
Apple is a preeemint designer of consumer electronics in the World, in fact based on market cap, they are the second most valuable company in the United States. They are not some bush league designers, that much is certain. Apple had 6 months to find this issue, SIX MONTHS - plenty of time I think to do pre-produciotn runs and to identify the issue. The white iPhone 4 should never had graced Steve Jobs Keynote unless that were sure they could deliver it in a TIMELY manner. The fact that is did is another disgrace of the White iPhone 4.
You also know absolutely NOTHING about the real issues other than what people speculated.
Yes, I know nothing about the delay....due to the disgraceful actions of Apple and their total lack of openness. Again, I said "supposed" in the post you quoted to indicate I was not certain of the issue. I've added the definition for your edification, as you seem to not know the meaning of the word.
Supposed: (verb) assume that something is the case on the basis of evidence or probability but without proof or certain knowledge
For Apple to recognize it and NOT ship it, just because they showed it proves what a good company they are.
Whatever time it then took to fix it is unimportant.
So being 10 months late on a product, whose historic refresh cycle is ~12 months, is "unimportant". I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think a delay that encompasses 80%+ of the historic product cycle is kind of important. To say otherwise speaks volumes.
Oh, and try telling the people who waited 10 months to get one or who got a black one but really wanted a white one how "unimportant" this issue is. I'm sure your comment will fall on deaf ears.
tigress666
Apr 6, 10:26 PM
Yes, it had a lot to do with them. Many who are leaving have a legitimate gripe with AT&T and if they want to take their business elsewhere b/c a purely financial decision by AT&T, so be it. Even if the finances may not add up at first. Taking your business elsewhere IS what many want to do.
Of course that is their choice but my point is to leave AT&T because they increased a price to go to some one who has an even more expensive price does not make sense to me at all. Now if there were other issues, sure.
Ah ok, so you have nothing. Just the same old line used by AT&T whenever they raise the price
Gotcha
The fact that you wrote the "Everyone wants money" line shows me how far over your head my point went.
Of course since I don't work there i don't know what all their expenses are. But you can't say just cause the iphone stayed the same price doesn't mean their expenses have gone up. You really don't understand running a business if you think cost of an item is only affected by how much that item cost the business (and that was the proof you gave to me, that the iphone hasn't gone up in price, that AT&T is solely doing this cause they can and not cause they are reflecting their own price increases).
They have to reflect all of their costs in that price to make a profit. And no, they aren't there to be nice to you. Their prices go up, unless they have some reason to believe they'll lose more business than they will make up by price increase, your prices are going to go up. At some point, regardless of if they think they will lose business they will have to increase the price solely cause they'll lose money otherwise. IT seems you think they should only raise prices at this point. Sorry, they are there to make a profit. They will weight what giesv them the most profit. When they give you a price cut, it's not cause they are being nice. It is cause they think that price cut will drum up enough business to eventually make more profit than they would if they didn't do that price cut.
And my point culminates in that while no, I don't have proof this isn't just cause they can (and you definitely don't have proof cause what you said totally doesn't stand up to reason at all and shows no understanding of running a business), I could easily buy that their prices have increased given that there is a lot of inflation going on (I work retail and i see it in our own prices going up at my store as well as when I buy stuff). If nothing else, they need to make more profit to make the same amount of money as a year ago (as I said, when it comes to inflation, having your wages stay the same = a decrease in pay as your wage doesn't go as far).
Of course that is their choice but my point is to leave AT&T because they increased a price to go to some one who has an even more expensive price does not make sense to me at all. Now if there were other issues, sure.
Ah ok, so you have nothing. Just the same old line used by AT&T whenever they raise the price
Gotcha
The fact that you wrote the "Everyone wants money" line shows me how far over your head my point went.
Of course since I don't work there i don't know what all their expenses are. But you can't say just cause the iphone stayed the same price doesn't mean their expenses have gone up. You really don't understand running a business if you think cost of an item is only affected by how much that item cost the business (and that was the proof you gave to me, that the iphone hasn't gone up in price, that AT&T is solely doing this cause they can and not cause they are reflecting their own price increases).
They have to reflect all of their costs in that price to make a profit. And no, they aren't there to be nice to you. Their prices go up, unless they have some reason to believe they'll lose more business than they will make up by price increase, your prices are going to go up. At some point, regardless of if they think they will lose business they will have to increase the price solely cause they'll lose money otherwise. IT seems you think they should only raise prices at this point. Sorry, they are there to make a profit. They will weight what giesv them the most profit. When they give you a price cut, it's not cause they are being nice. It is cause they think that price cut will drum up enough business to eventually make more profit than they would if they didn't do that price cut.
And my point culminates in that while no, I don't have proof this isn't just cause they can (and you definitely don't have proof cause what you said totally doesn't stand up to reason at all and shows no understanding of running a business), I could easily buy that their prices have increased given that there is a lot of inflation going on (I work retail and i see it in our own prices going up at my store as well as when I buy stuff). If nothing else, they need to make more profit to make the same amount of money as a year ago (as I said, when it comes to inflation, having your wages stay the same = a decrease in pay as your wage doesn't go as far).
tonywalker23
Jun 19, 02:36 PM
i bought these off of woot a couple of weeks ago. im asking $5 each and shipping is free. heres the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200231675175
auction is buy it now.
auction is buy it now.
iApache
Sep 9, 05:51 PM
I've attached it because when I usually post it, it comes out too big.
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Analog Kid
Jul 26, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the tips. Still, Lightscribe or Labelflash or equivalent would be a nice feature, especially in a notebook computer. If you're out and about with your notebook and you want to burn a disc, it'd be convenient to be able to just burn a few words on to the disc rather than bothering with printers, inks, labels, markers, etc.
Seems like a lot of hassle to avoid using a Sharpie...
[Edit: guess I'm not the only one thinking this way....]
Seems like a lot of hassle to avoid using a Sharpie...
[Edit: guess I'm not the only one thinking this way....]
Steve121178
Apr 21, 07:59 AM
We're winning! We're really winning this time!
Suck on these :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple: fandroids.
Rest of the world says hi. This thread is about alleged stats for the US only. Android is caning the iPhone globally.
Suck on these :apple: :apple: :apple: :apple: fandroids.
Rest of the world says hi. This thread is about alleged stats for the US only. Android is caning the iPhone globally.
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twoodcc
Feb 7, 06:49 PM
Yeah I had my computer shut down for the weekend but it's back up and running right now. I lost out on over 100K+ :(.
I might build another computer as I have a i7 920 laying around and maybe I can run another bigadv client. I'm also looking to purchase a home soon so I may be in a out a bit while I get re-situated into my new place. I also can't be spending too much on computer goodies :D
glad you are back up!
might as well put that 920 to use!
good luck with the home buy! i know how that can be! (i just bought one exactly 1 month ago!)
yeah i can't be spending too much either ;)
I might build another computer as I have a i7 920 laying around and maybe I can run another bigadv client. I'm also looking to purchase a home soon so I may be in a out a bit while I get re-situated into my new place. I also can't be spending too much on computer goodies :D
glad you are back up!
might as well put that 920 to use!
good luck with the home buy! i know how that can be! (i just bought one exactly 1 month ago!)
yeah i can't be spending too much either ;)
bboucher790
Apr 25, 12:48 AM
Once you go white, you never go back.
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kavika411
Apr 5, 06:16 PM
If politicians who are legislators are blaming the way women dress as a causal factor in rape cases, then legal consequences are the primary thing we are talking about here. Certain politicians' conviction that "immodest" or "revealing" dress leads to rape could have all sorts of terrifying legal consequences for women.
Back on the first page CaoCao attempted to deny that there was any connection between Muslim modesty and Christian modesty in dress. I think he actually demonstrated that they are fundamentally the same, differing only in minor degrees.
Fair enough. I'd be interested in your thoughts on Post No. 50, if you have any.
Back on the first page CaoCao attempted to deny that there was any connection between Muslim modesty and Christian modesty in dress. I think he actually demonstrated that they are fundamentally the same, differing only in minor degrees.
Fair enough. I'd be interested in your thoughts on Post No. 50, if you have any.
JAT
Mar 25, 12:45 PM
Or you could just buy the TomTom iOS app for $39.99...
Wow, I thought it was twice that. Does it include free lifetime map updates in some way?
Wow, I thought it was twice that. Does it include free lifetime map updates in some way?
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JPark
Apr 13, 10:03 AM
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One even more important change, which I KNOW they won't do, is use a universal radio chip that can support GOS and CDMA networks - no more having to buy a new phone every time you switch carriers - oops, that cuts agains Apple's AND the carriers interest - not much traction there.
It could potentially reduce Apple's manufacturing costs, so there may be some traction there.
One even more important change, which I KNOW they won't do, is use a universal radio chip that can support GOS and CDMA networks - no more having to buy a new phone every time you switch carriers - oops, that cuts agains Apple's AND the carriers interest - not much traction there.
It could potentially reduce Apple's manufacturing costs, so there may be some traction there.
res1233
Apr 25, 02:44 AM
I know the reason, or the supposed reason (who knows, Apple has been as tight lipped as ever on the issue) . If true, its a disgrace it made it to the keynote presentation, without the issue being identified or a reasonable fix found. I don't care how you square it - being 10 months late for a device who has an average life of 12 months is utter incompetence and hence disgraceful.
Hats off for Apple sticking to it, but that does not take away from the fact that they should never have made the promise w/o a better understanding of production issues. The iPhone 4 design has been around since at least January per spy shots of the iPad before release. So, its not as if the design was so new that they could claim there was no time to identify the issue until after the June 2010 keynote by Steve Jobs.
This was the first iPhone, and quite possibly the first phone in general, whose enclosure is made almost entirely of glass, besides the buttons and metal band. This is an issue that likely never came up in the past because the white paint on glass thing never really mattered before. I find it entirely plausible that they thought it wouldn't bleed as badly as it seems to.
Hats off for Apple sticking to it, but that does not take away from the fact that they should never have made the promise w/o a better understanding of production issues. The iPhone 4 design has been around since at least January per spy shots of the iPad before release. So, its not as if the design was so new that they could claim there was no time to identify the issue until after the June 2010 keynote by Steve Jobs.
This was the first iPhone, and quite possibly the first phone in general, whose enclosure is made almost entirely of glass, besides the buttons and metal band. This is an issue that likely never came up in the past because the white paint on glass thing never really mattered before. I find it entirely plausible that they thought it wouldn't bleed as badly as it seems to.
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drinu89
Apr 7, 09:35 AM
I have a factory unlocked iphone 4 and whilst on iOS 4.1, I became aware that when I installed gyroscope apps, they don't work. When 4.2.1 came out instead of solving the problem, my compass also failed. Both my gyro and compass don't work anymore... 4.3 came out still the same problem..
Now that 4.3.1 came out the accelerometer also failed!
Thank god I save my SHSH blobs since I restored back to 4.2.1
Shame on you Apple!!
Now that 4.3.1 came out the accelerometer also failed!
Thank god I save my SHSH blobs since I restored back to 4.2.1
Shame on you Apple!!
BornToMac
Aug 3, 06:31 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/2j2vwhu.png
Link please?
Link please?
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liketom
Dec 19, 05:12 AM
here's my first :)
Elan0204
Aug 13, 03:38 PM
I like it, but it should have been iMeowTiger.
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-aggie-
Apr 16, 11:26 PM
It comes from stringing daisies together to make a chain or simply a daisy chain. From there, it has been used to describe various different things that look similar but have no daisies, of course. Like for hard drives. Or sexual partners, but you knew that, right?
m3coolpix
Sep 5, 10:13 AM
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q146/atbglenn/Computers/9d60c49a.jpg
Any chance of the original background JPEG?
Pretty please?:D
Any chance of the original background JPEG?
Pretty please?:D
macridah
Oct 26, 07:27 PM
The new interface is now available. It's sweet!!!
And check out the new address book.
And check out the new address book.
obeygiant
Jan 18, 01:43 PM
Sat in the new Passat at the NAIAS this weekend because of this thread. Its a nice car, roomy, comfortable, kind of "mean" looking on the outside. I liked it.
titaniumducky
Aug 13, 10:11 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/titaniumducky/Photoshop%20Work/Macrumors-Avatar2.jpg
edit: fixed the fact that it should be new :D
edit: fixed the fact that it should be new :D
Socratic
May 2, 05:55 PM
Except that the question "male to male sex" is discriminatory. It doesn't ask you "received anal sex", it asks you about your sexual orientation. Plain and simple, discriminatory and non-scientific because male-to-female sex has the exact same risks.
It's not. Risky male to female sex is also excluded (sleeping with anyone involved in the sex industry). It's a question of exposure to mixing blood, and thus communicating disease. Statistically, Male to Male sex increases that risk. Also, if it was a homophobic policy female to female sex would be deemed a risk factor, but it's not, as it does not carry elevated risk. And to clarify, I'm not saying elevated means high - I'm saying it means higher.
It's not. Risky male to female sex is also excluded (sleeping with anyone involved in the sex industry). It's a question of exposure to mixing blood, and thus communicating disease. Statistically, Male to Male sex increases that risk. Also, if it was a homophobic policy female to female sex would be deemed a risk factor, but it's not, as it does not carry elevated risk. And to clarify, I'm not saying elevated means high - I'm saying it means higher.
superbovine
Dec 16, 01:43 AM
I think a more interesting font would help. Sould be gold n' sparkly! Though size constraints are a problem.
i'll try again tomorrow with your advice.
i'll try again tomorrow with your advice.
Doctor Q
May 2, 04:49 PM
The eligibility rules in the U.S., which are observed by the Red Cross and other blood donation centers, are very broad in eliminating groups with risk factors, the same way your zip code or your sex might affect your insurance rates. So I can understand why safe or unsafe individuals are frequently misclassified under the rules.
What's frustrating to many, however, is that the FDA is so slow to update out-of-date rules based on what the science shows. I've read the research reports that show that the lifetime ban on most gay men is too strong a restriction. Whether it's intentional discrimination or bureaucratic sluggishness, they are ruling out many safe and willing donors in the name of safety. Some people blame the Red Cross, but those who want to effect change should lobby the FDA instead.
The questionnaire I have to fill out each time doesn't ask about sexual orientation, only about sex, but other donor centers might phrase the same questions inappropriately, implying that the rules are about being gay at all. I'd complain if I saw that. But it wouldn't change the rules, only the interview.
As far as the MacRumors Blood Drive goes, we don't want controversies like this to prevent eligible donors from donating now. That's why we ask those who can't donate, for any reason, to help with publicity and encourage others to donate.
What's frustrating to many, however, is that the FDA is so slow to update out-of-date rules based on what the science shows. I've read the research reports that show that the lifetime ban on most gay men is too strong a restriction. Whether it's intentional discrimination or bureaucratic sluggishness, they are ruling out many safe and willing donors in the name of safety. Some people blame the Red Cross, but those who want to effect change should lobby the FDA instead.
The questionnaire I have to fill out each time doesn't ask about sexual orientation, only about sex, but other donor centers might phrase the same questions inappropriately, implying that the rules are about being gay at all. I'd complain if I saw that. But it wouldn't change the rules, only the interview.
As far as the MacRumors Blood Drive goes, we don't want controversies like this to prevent eligible donors from donating now. That's why we ask those who can't donate, for any reason, to help with publicity and encourage others to donate.
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